Seymour Buds Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Espreitem isto ... E depois comentem .. "Todo termina un dia, quedaras para siempre en mis recuerdos mas wapos hermano, has luchado conmigo campeon." Miguel C. 1980-2008 #!/bin/ssh#The Unix Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep Tenho uma dor na zona bolsal e uma "artrose ciática" no neurónio esquerdo ... so PISS OFF ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 " Deckard - Is it artificial? Rachel - Of Course it is." Phillip K. Dick in "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" http://soundcloud.com/diogo-ribeiro/diogo-ribeiro-folimat (24 Hours, Flow, Baroque, Tribal Vison) http://www.flow-bookings.com Diogo Ribeiro @ Sound Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Quanto ás implicações morais. Não me façam rir, Alguém se queixa das implicações morais de construir uma AK-47, para matar seres humanos? E as implicações morais de um míssil tomahawk? Ou se uma "bomba suja", ou de uma bala? Curiosamente os gajos a comentar que estão muito chocados com esta novidade, por substituir o papel de Deus (?) , têm todos (infelizmente) nomes latinos, a Alejandra Garcia e o Carlos Manuel.. dass é embaraçante. só mais uma coisa,.... Genial!!! http://soundcloud.com/diogo-ribeiro/diogo-ribeiro-folimat (24 Hours, Flow, Baroque, Tribal Vison) http://www.flow-bookings.com Diogo Ribeiro @ Sound Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markkus Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 " Deckard - Is it artificial? Rachel - Of Course it is." (= Ainda ontem tive a ver esse filme, o Final Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Buds Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Creio que nao muito pela moral, mas sim mais ética. Agora a pergunto que deixo no ar ... "inventar" novas espécies ... isto vai ser uma "arma" muito cobiçada ... uma coisa é clonar ovelhas ou super soldados, outra coisa ... é poder criar teoricamente ... tudo o que possa ter vida ... "Todo termina un dia, quedaras para siempre en mis recuerdos mas wapos hermano, has luchado conmigo campeon." Miguel C. 1980-2008 #!/bin/ssh#The Unix Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep Tenho uma dor na zona bolsal e uma "artrose ciática" no neurónio esquerdo ... so PISS OFF ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Creio que nao muito pela moral, mas sim mais ética. Agora a pergunto que deixo no ar ... "inventar" novas espécies ... isto vai ser uma "arma" muito cobiçada ... uma coisa é clonar ovelhas ou super soldados, outra coisa ... é poder criar teoricamente ... tudo o que possa ter vida ... o Edison quando ligou pela primeira vez, a primeira lâmpada. também nem deve ter dormido nessa noite a pensar na ética. A Ingreja Católica também achou pouco ético o heliocentrismo de Copérnico, e Galileu. o que tem de ser, tem de ser é inevitável, os benefícios ultrapassam largamente as ameaças, e a nossa concepção de ética vai mudando ao longo da evolução. http://soundcloud.com/diogo-ribeiro/diogo-ribeiro-folimat (24 Hours, Flow, Baroque, Tribal Vison) http://www.flow-bookings.com Diogo Ribeiro @ Sound Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toujour à pouchette Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 "inventar" novas espécies ... isto vai ser uma "arma" muito cobiçada ... uma coisa é clonar ovelhas ou super soldados, outra coisa ... é poder criar teoricamente ... tudo o que possa ter vida ... VENDE-SE: Praticamente nova! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Buds Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Creio que nao muito pela moral, mas sim mais ética. Agora a pergunto que deixo no ar ... "inventar" novas espécies ... isto vai ser uma "arma" muito cobiçada ... uma coisa é clonar ovelhas ou super soldados, outra coisa ... é poder criar teoricamente ... tudo o que possa ter vida ... o Edison quando ligou pela primeira vez, a primeira lâmpada. também nem deve ter dormido nessa noite a pensar na ética. A Ingreja Católica também achou pouco ético o heliocentrismo de Copérnico, e Galileu. o que tem de ser, tem de ser é inevitável, os benefícios ultrapassam largamente as ameaças, e a nossa concepção de ética vai mudando ao longo da evolução. Não consigo é encontrar correlacção entre as invençoes que deste, e uma desta magnitude. O poder de criar vida.Nova vida que jamais poderemos imaginar. Eu não sou contra atenção, mas realmente aqui temos a certeza de que -não sabemos- literalmente o que vai sair dali, blind experiments. E isto nao me escandaliza de modo algum, no entanto deixa-me a pensar.Ainda estou a digerir um pouco a ideia e assimilar.Mais tarde irei colocar aqui as minhas reflexões. "Todo termina un dia, quedaras para siempre en mis recuerdos mas wapos hermano, has luchado conmigo campeon." Miguel C. 1980-2008 #!/bin/ssh#The Unix Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep Tenho uma dor na zona bolsal e uma "artrose ciática" no neurónio esquerdo ... so PISS OFF ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsphere Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 lol, que diferente, pomos micróbios a fabricar gasolina sem chumbo 98.. Vida sintetica ? mais vírus ainda? Tiago Fala com as pessoas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsphere Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Se os bugs fugirem do laboratório, depois transformam todo o co2 em o2 e gasolina... é mais um fim do mundo possível... lol... pode ser a seguir ao 2012.. Tiago Fala com as pessoas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Buds Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Se nao fosses tao precepitado terias visto que acabaste de dizer duas grandes parvoices ... e seguidas .. desta vez realmente superaste-te. Aqui nao vais por microbios a fazer "gasolina", tu vais fazer esses "microbios". Claro pá ... o co2 acaba-se assim sem mais ... que fixe ... sempre pensei que o metabolismo das coisas transforma o2 (que temos falta) em co2 (que temos em excesso). Agora ... vai mudar o canal s.f.f. "Todo termina un dia, quedaras para siempre en mis recuerdos mas wapos hermano, has luchado conmigo campeon." Miguel C. 1980-2008 #!/bin/ssh#The Unix Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep Tenho uma dor na zona bolsal e uma "artrose ciática" no neurónio esquerdo ... so PISS OFF ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsphere Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 "this is science not religion" -> or is it the same thing? Mesmo assim espero que se der, dê para o melhor.. enrique irigoyen – September 7 2008 1st Question from commentator: Why not use nature's organisms that you are modifying to produce methane? ..instead of adding steps of genetically modifying them? Answer: I can't patent naturally occurring organism. e se lhe modificares um gene já podes! lol .. crias-lhe uma doença e ele passa a ser patenteavel.. . isso é imbecil Robert S – September 6 2008 I agree with John Tan. We are already creating life. I am also not pleased with those who must insert their faith into this discussion, thereby showing the rest of us your fear and doubt. (If you were true believers there would be no reason to mention it.) Soon we will be able to insert nano-machines into our bodies and minds. I am hopeful that the religious fundamentalists will choose not to have these upgrades so that they can visit their magic place in the sky more rapidly. lol Would all of you PLEASE stop looking at this with religious values? We CAN create life. It IS possible, and will come in time. The only thing stopping it will be ethical laws. We will reach an understanding of how to construct molecules to create certain features in the organism we wish to make. He has patents because he is living in the current world. He will, or someone else will. Its that simple. Moral standards will change and conform to the cultural and technological standards of the time. Even mentioning "God" shows ignorance to science. lol lol lol alejandra Garcia – August 25 2008 I agree, man can't create life out of nothing.....it raises the question of how humans beings came to be, where do we come from?thats a whole other issue.....we are destroying this world, and we have to figure out how to save our planet......but man is no God Carlos Miguel – August 19 2008 Looks to me like copying and pasting, not creating. Man can't create life, he just alter what's already there. Trevor Bykowski – August 18 2008 This honestly blew my mind apart. I for one could not believe that we have the capabilities to create such complex molecules, let alone create them for specific uses, when I heard it in the presentation. I had to replay that a few times to let it sink in. The possibilities are endless, life has transcended into a new dimension. With our imaginations being the limit to the benefits of this technology it will have a profound impact indeed. The theory is sound, the science is proven, all that is left is fine tuning it to suit our needs and solve our problems. Bravo indeed! Dave Grobman – August 5 2008 Fabulous and inevitable! Only by standing on a precipice can mankind truly reach beyond the shackles of living for the day and progress towards a more promising tommorow. While it is understandable that many would recoil at the notion of quantifying what it is to be alive, people like Craig Venter should be lauded as being both heroic and visionary. The Genie is indeed out of the bottle and I for one would rather have the Genie working for us as opposed to against us. ..vamos fazer de um homem um deus.... pode ser este... opaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Barry Bernsten – July 18 2008 We can all learn something from what Al Gore had to say this week. Unless we become self reliant for our energy requirements, we will never again be an independent democratic nation. We can start with a fundamental change in our driving habits that is now required. The Automobile Industry is going to be in the same position as the Airline Industry in the next few months. Unless we get away from gas combustion vehicles, including Hybrids, the automobile industry (as we know it) will die.We need to make drastic moves. America needs to move to ELECTRIC. The vehicles are not as fast, not always as fun to drive, but the move will save Americans money (Billions) and help bring change to our automotive companies. Let's "Be Green"!!!!!!!!!!!! BG Automotive Group Ltd. has a car that will travel 80-100 miles per charge for $15,995. Finally a car that most Americans can afford. Did you know that 80% of all drivers, drive less than 50 miles per day? This new car will cost an equivalent of $0.20-0.25 cents/gallon (depending on electricity rates in your area). Why send $700 Billion per year to OPEC (now buying up U.S. companies) when we can use this money for our schools, health care, social security for all Americans, etc, etc, etc. We can make the difference if WE change. sim pois... e o vosso orçamento para o exercito... maior parte das opiniões são estranhas ( para mim pelo menos ).. =) Tiago Fala com as pessoas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsphere Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Se nao fosses tao precepitado terias visto que acabaste de dizer duas grandes parvoices ... e seguidas .. desta vez realmente superaste-te. Aqui nao vais por microbios a fazer "gasolina", tu vais fazer esses "microbios". Claro pá ... o co2 acaba-se assim sem mais ... que fixe ... sempre pensei que o metabolismo das coisas transforma o2 (que temos falta) em co2 (que temos em excesso). Agora ... vai mudar o canal s.f.f. quem é que disse que temos co2 em excesso? onde leste isso ? Tiago Fala com as pessoas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Buds Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Se nao fosses tao precepitado terias visto que acabaste de dizer duas grandes parvoices ... e seguidas .. desta vez realmente superaste-te. Aqui nao vais por microbios a fazer "gasolina", tu vais fazer esses "microbios". Claro pá ... o co2 acaba-se assim sem mais ... que fixe ... sempre pensei que o metabolismo das coisas transforma o2 (que temos falta) em co2 (que temos em excesso). Agora ... vai mudar o canal s.f.f. quem é que disse que temos co2 em excesso? onde leste isso ? Simplesmente "Todo termina un dia, quedaras para siempre en mis recuerdos mas wapos hermano, has luchado conmigo campeon." Miguel C. 1980-2008 #!/bin/ssh#The Unix Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep Tenho uma dor na zona bolsal e uma "artrose ciática" no neurónio esquerdo ... so PISS OFF ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsphere Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 " Lawrence Chartier – March 6 2008 I find this technology fascinating and frightening. The unfortunate truth of the human race is that we have throughout history distorted good discoveries and inventions for use in warfare and destruction of cultures, environment and other human beings. I believe that it is important that we dele into understanding how we can manipulate our environment to help us survive, however are we truly able to handle the responsibility. History has shown that each time our understanding of technology, our abilities and surroundings a group came to power that exploited these new technologies for awful purposes. Craig says that the majority of humans are unwilling or incapable of using this technology for evil purposes. I find this statement quite naive and I think it is hard to believe that a bright individual like Craig can actually believe this given the evidence of our past and current wars and troubles. I am an optimist and a realist. Despite the fact that most human beings are capable of incredible good, many are often unwittingly drawn into following the wrong leaders or are overwhelmed enough not to fight against the current regime. This is what frightens me most about our new discoveries into recreating the very cells that make up our environment. In world war one, biological and chemistry science was used to create mustard gas as a weapon. In world war two, again we saw the distortion of science as another gas was employed to eradicate certain ethnicities in what has become widely known as the gas chambers. We also saw the creation of bombs large enough to decimate entire cities and already there exists a myriad of chemical weapons all over the world that are intended to kill every living thing while leaving infrastructure intact. These are only a few examples of the magnitude of destruction that happens when new scientific technology falls into the wrong hands. There are of course other discoveries that have led us to many improvements in our societies and surroundings. However, I am not so sure we are ready for this responsibility yet. We may have evolved intellectually, but we still have to many qualities that have a large impact on our ability to control our ever-growing power. I hope for the best. " Tiago Fala com as pessoas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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